Comments on: Some Get What They Deserve, Others Don’t http://sparrowchat.com/2009/10/some-get-what-they-deserve-others-dont/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:17:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: R J Adams http://sparrowchat.com/2009/10/some-get-what-they-deserve-others-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-17292 R J Adams Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:01:00 +0000 http://sparrowchat.com/?p=5448#comment-17292 <b>Nevin</b> - thanks for that. This report is somewhat sketchy. While it definitely links Hain's name with domestic violence, it fails to be specific. I think the lesson is that guns in the home (or strapped to a hip outside) aggravate any situation. To handle a weapon properly requires coolness of purpose. The emotional trauma of relationship break-up is the very last situation where a gun could be considered desirable. No doubt more of this unfortunate story will emerge in due course. Nevin – thanks for that. This report is somewhat sketchy. While it definitely links Hain’s name with domestic violence, it fails to be specific.
I think the lesson is that guns in the home (or strapped to a hip outside) aggravate any situation. To handle a weapon properly requires coolness of purpose. The emotional trauma of relationship break-up is the very last situation where a gun could be considered desirable.
No doubt more of this unfortunate story will emerge in due course.

]]> By: Nevin http://sparrowchat.com/2009/10/some-get-what-they-deserve-others-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-17290 Nevin Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:12:09 +0000 http://sparrowchat.com/?p=5448#comment-17290 http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/10/post_20.html http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/10/post_20.html

]]> By: Nevin http://sparrowchat.com/2009/10/some-get-what-they-deserve-others-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-17289 Nevin Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:06:28 +0000 http://sparrowchat.com/?p=5448#comment-17289 Yesterday morning on WBAI (NYC based radio station), there was a discussion about domestic violence and her name was brought up with the story I told you. I did not read it on the net. But let me do some research and see what I can come up with.... Yesterday morning on WBAI (NYC based radio station), there was a discussion about domestic violence and her name was brought up with the story I told you. I did not read it on the net. But let me do some research and see what I can come up with….

]]> By: R J Adams http://sparrowchat.com/2009/10/some-get-what-they-deserve-others-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-17288 R J Adams Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:02:13 +0000 http://sparrowchat.com/?p=5448#comment-17288 <b>WWW</b> - ....or something! <b>Nevin</b> - despite scouring the local and national accounts of this story, I can find nothing to support your statement. Certainly, Scott Hain had worked as a prison officer, and at the time was a county parole officer, but I can find no evidence of any court order against him by his wife. Most reports state the marriage was "up and down", though it seems likely the wife was planning to leave him, which may have instigated the tragedy. Neither can I locate evidence of physical abuse, beatings, etc.. Any references (links) you have to a court order would be much appreciated. More about this case may come to light following the post mortems. WWW – ….or something!

Nevin – despite scouring the local and national accounts of this story, I can find nothing to support your statement. Certainly, Scott Hain had worked as a prison officer, and at the time was a county parole officer, but I can find no evidence of any court order against him by his wife. Most reports state the marriage was “up and down”, though it seems likely the wife was planning to leave him, which may have instigated the tragedy. Neither can I locate evidence of physical abuse, beatings, etc.. Any references (links) you have to a court order would be much appreciated.
More about this case may come to light following the post mortems.

]]> By: Nevin http://sparrowchat.com/2009/10/some-get-what-they-deserve-others-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-17287 Nevin Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:15:54 +0000 http://sparrowchat.com/?p=5448#comment-17287 R. J. Adams, I am going to add an important tidbit to the first story which cooperate media forgot to include conveniently. The mother who was shot dead by her husband was being abused by her husband for many years. Also, he is a police officer.... She had court order against him and was carrying a gun at all times in order to protect herself from him. Now I am not in anyway excusing her behavior around children. I am against guns like I am against war, hunger, organized religion and god-damn globalization. However, I also feel she was attacked by the media for a reason. The fact that she was beaten regularly at home by her police officer husband was left out of the story.... interesting don't you think? R. J. Adams, I am going to add an important tidbit to the first story which cooperate media forgot to include conveniently.

The mother who was shot dead by her husband was being abused by her husband for many years. Also, he is a police officer…. She had court order against him and was carrying a gun at all times in order to protect herself from him.

Now I am not in anyway excusing her behavior around children. I am against guns like I am against war, hunger, organized religion and god-damn globalization. However, I also feel she was attacked by the media for a reason. The fact that she was beaten regularly at home by her police officer husband was left out of the story…. interesting don’t you think?

]]> By: wisewebwoman http://sparrowchat.com/2009/10/some-get-what-they-deserve-others-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-17286 wisewebwoman Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:20:25 +0000 http://sparrowchat.com/?p=5448#comment-17286 It's in the drinking water. Or something. XO WWW It’s in the drinking water. Or something.
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