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		<title>By: This Old Brit</title>
		<link>http://sparrowchat.com/2009/05/the-great-global-con-trick/comment-page-1/#comment-17111</link>
		<dc:creator>This Old Brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A recent print edition of The Mail carried a pretty small piece by a regular columnist, whose name I have now forgotten, saying that &quot;Obaba is hust following orders.&quot;  The piece went on to say that the orders were those of the Military Industrial Complex.  They further said (paraphrased) that if he didn&#039;t, his fate would be ... unthinkable.

And here&#039;s something I&#039;m saying all on my own.  Anyone who can&#039;t bring themselves to believe this to be true, should ask &lt;b&gt;Colin Powell&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent print edition of The Mail carried a pretty small piece by a regular columnist, whose name I have now forgotten, saying that &#8220;Obaba is hust following orders.&#8221;  The piece went on to say that the orders were those of the Military Industrial Complex.  They further said (paraphrased) that if he didn&#8217;t, his fate would be &#8230; unthinkable.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s something I&#8217;m saying all on my own.  Anyone who can&#8217;t bring themselves to believe this to be true, should ask <b>Colin Powell</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: R J Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>R J Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Twilight&lt;/b&gt; - at first glance it may seem you are out on a limb with regard to other commentators. I don&#039;t believe this is so. I agree Obama was the best on offer. I&#039;m still prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt as, like you, I think it likely he is &lt;i&gt;&quot;....doing the best he can in shitty circumstances.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
He has to tread a wary path or he may well end up suffering a similar fate to JFK, who was undoubtedly killed for going against the Mafia. Today, the corporates are the Mafia.
No, I don&#039;t believe Kucinich would have fared better had he won the presidency. Frankly, if Jesus Christ were to become US president they&#039;d end up crucifying him on Capitol Hill.

&lt;b&gt;WWW&lt;/b&gt; - Obama may well be tugging at those strings behind the scenes, but God help him if he breaks them.

&lt;b&gt;Nevin&lt;/b&gt; - almost comical, were not our lives, and those of our children, on the line.

&lt;b&gt;Anthony North&lt;/b&gt; - I tend to agree with you regarding independent politicians. Party whips have always been a crazy idea. While the system works so well for those who benefit from it the most, any change at all will prove mightily difficult to achieve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Twilight</b> &#8211; at first glance it may seem you are out on a limb with regard to other commentators. I don&#8217;t believe this is so. I agree Obama was the best on offer. I&#8217;m still prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt as, like you, I think it likely he is <i>&#8220;&#8230;.doing the best he can in shitty circumstances.&#8221;</i><br />
He has to tread a wary path or he may well end up suffering a similar fate to JFK, who was undoubtedly killed for going against the Mafia. Today, the corporates are the Mafia.<br />
No, I don&#8217;t believe Kucinich would have fared better had he won the presidency. Frankly, if Jesus Christ were to become US president they&#8217;d end up crucifying him on Capitol Hill.</p>
<p><b>WWW</b> &#8211; Obama may well be tugging at those strings behind the scenes, but God help him if he breaks them.</p>
<p><b>Nevin</b> &#8211; almost comical, were not our lives, and those of our children, on the line.</p>
<p><b>Anthony North</b> &#8211; I tend to agree with you regarding independent politicians. Party whips have always been a crazy idea. While the system works so well for those who benefit from it the most, any change at all will prove mightily difficult to achieve.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony North</title>
		<link>http://sparrowchat.com/2009/05/the-great-global-con-trick/comment-page-1/#comment-17108</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could have written this myself. Totally agree with you. At present the UK is facing local and euro elections soon in which extreme parties are expected to gain their first foothold in democracy - because a centrist non-choice elite has destroyed the very idea of choice in democracy.
   My own favoured solution is the independent politician, free of party loyalty, and whittling away at the party system, with politicians who think for themselves and don&#039;t follow an increasingly merging party line.
   This would kickstart real opposing debates and we may be back on track. How to get those independents, though - that&#039;s the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could have written this myself. Totally agree with you. At present the UK is facing local and euro elections soon in which extreme parties are expected to gain their first foothold in democracy &#8211; because a centrist non-choice elite has destroyed the very idea of choice in democracy.<br />
   My own favoured solution is the independent politician, free of party loyalty, and whittling away at the party system, with politicians who think for themselves and don&#8217;t follow an increasingly merging party line.<br />
   This would kickstart real opposing debates and we may be back on track. How to get those independents, though &#8211; that&#8217;s the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Nevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RJ, a very good post.... 

Sadly I totally agree with you and www

Elections are a sham because, how can we have true democracy when both parties are saying the same thing and we need to choice between the two... it&#039;s almost comical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RJ, a very good post&#8230;. </p>
<p>Sadly I totally agree with you and www</p>
<p>Elections are a sham because, how can we have true democracy when both parties are saying the same thing and we need to choice between the two&#8230; it&#8217;s almost comical!</p>
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		<title>By: wisewebwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wisewebwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 04:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RJA:
The corporatocracy has never been more flagrantly evident as it is today, even to the blurring of the party lines. 
To see Obama, who had given even my cynical old heart a lift, adopt the BushMasterPlan with buttons down the middle has seen the last of my &#039;hope&#039; go down the drain.
As the transfer of wealth continues, welcome to the Plan, long written, for the New American Global Empire.
Obama is a puppet on a string.
XO
WWW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RJA:<br />
The corporatocracy has never been more flagrantly evident as it is today, even to the blurring of the party lines.<br />
To see Obama, who had given even my cynical old heart a lift, adopt the BushMasterPlan with buttons down the middle has seen the last of my &#8216;hope&#8217; go down the drain.<br />
As the transfer of wealth continues, welcome to the Plan, long written, for the New American Global Empire.<br />
Obama is a puppet on a string.<br />
XO<br />
WWW</p>
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		<title>By: Twilight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twilight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see that what you&#039;re saying may be absolutely right.  Yet, with regard to President Obama - what was our alternative?

There was a candidate called Dennis Kucinich in the primaries of 2008 who was putting forward all the things the far left liberals now say they wanted. Yet who supported him?  I did.  Hardly anybody else did, so I shifted to Clinton, then to Obama.   

I think the Prez is doing the best he can in shitty circumstances. 

So what now?   

I wonder what would have happened if a lot of people had supported Kucinich, and he managed to get the presidency with a slim majority.  Would he have been able to do the stuff he wanted to do.  No, of course not.

Let&#039;s not keep knocking Obama. Let&#039;s try to be a bit positive.  Negativity breeds negativity.  Let&#039;s at the very least feel glad for what we&#039;ve got, and that what we&#039;ve got isn&#039;t McCain and.....Palin!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see that what you&#8217;re saying may be absolutely right.  Yet, with regard to President Obama &#8211; what was our alternative?</p>
<p>There was a candidate called Dennis Kucinich in the primaries of 2008 who was putting forward all the things the far left liberals now say they wanted. Yet who supported him?  I did.  Hardly anybody else did, so I shifted to Clinton, then to Obama.   </p>
<p>I think the Prez is doing the best he can in shitty circumstances. </p>
<p>So what now?   </p>
<p>I wonder what would have happened if a lot of people had supported Kucinich, and he managed to get the presidency with a slim majority.  Would he have been able to do the stuff he wanted to do.  No, of course not.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not keep knocking Obama. Let&#8217;s try to be a bit positive.  Negativity breeds negativity.  Let&#8217;s at the very least feel glad for what we&#8217;ve got, and that what we&#8217;ve got isn&#8217;t McCain and&#8230;..Palin!!!</p>
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